Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board

Given that we will struggle next year, l believe that we will finish 11-16.
Do we try to finish as low as we can so that we have a higher pick in the 2015 Draft, which would then allow us to offer that pick to GWS next year for Cameron/ Shiel.
l do not want to come last, but 2nd last would be good so that we can relaunch in 2016.
One year of pain for many years of gain.
Just a thought, which may not need too much planning as the team looks very weak next years.

no. we do not need any more high draft picks.

John Wren wrote:no. we do not need any more high draft picks.

Yep this. See us finishing 6-10 in 2015 and got everything crossed we can do even better than that.

It worked so well for Melbourne so we should give it a go.

mavs5 wrote:Given that we will struggle next year, l believe that we will finish 11-16.
Do we try to finish as low as we can so that we have a higher pick in the 2015 Draft, which would then allow us to offer that pick to GWS next year for Cameron/ Shiel.
l do not want to come last, but 2nd last would be good so that we can relaunch in 2016.
One year of pain for many years of gain.
Just a thought, which may not need too much planning as the team looks very weak next years.

Are you friggin joking? That is absolute rubbish. We'll challenge for top 8. This shows you have no idea whatsoever. Yeah lets be the first team to start tanking from Rd 1.

mavs5 wrote:Given that we will struggle next year, l believe that we will finish 11-16.
Do we try to finish as low as we can so that we have a higher pick in the 2015 Draft, which would then allow us to offer that pick to GWS next year for Cameron/ Shiel.
l do not want to come last, but 2nd last would be good so that we can relaunch in 2016.
One year of pain for many years of gain.
Just a thought, which may not need too much planning as the team looks very weak next years.

I disagree with your assumption we will struggle next year.

Assuming we have a fit Cloke, Reid, Brown and Swanny next year, along with improvements from Broomhead, Adams, Kennedy, Grundy, Witts, Langdon, Karnezis, Freeman, Elliott, Frost, Keeffe and Seedsman, I reckon we will finish 4-6 on the ladder.

Absolutely not. If we start tanking, we won't be able to attract any top players from other clubs that want to come for more than just money. It could also see more players demanding trades.

We need to challenge for finals next year and I think if we have a good injury run we can. If we want to attract some quality A-graders next year, we'll need salary cap space (which we should have) and a high likelihood of challenging for a flag.

jesus christ beams isn't that good..

should be aiming for top 8 comfortably.

leonmagic wrote:jesus christ beams isn't that good..

should be aiming for top 8 comfortably.

Agree. We are still better that some clubs that finished between 5 and 8 this year.

Aim for top 8 at this stage
By round 5 aim for top 4
By the end of the H&A the aim should be a winning GF

A better view of where we are than tanking

Aim for top 8 at this stage
By round 5 aim for top 4
By the end of the H&A the aim should be a winning GF

A better view of where we are than tanking

Anyone half fit to be in charge of a multi million dollar organisation would see our list as it is today, and realise we are 0.1% chance to win the flag next year.

Then have a look at the list how it might end up under the current trade path.
Will these proposed inputs have a high chance of significantly contributing to our top-4 tilt in 2016.

Greenwood on 450K pa for 4 years (50/50)
Varcoe on 375K for 3 years ???? (30/70)
Krispy on 250K for 3 years ??? (20/80)
Pick 5 (50/50)

This will cost us a fair slice of our salary cap.

Use the 1million saved to load up our biggest contracts front end - should be at a slight discount too.

Pretty much tank 2015, get the bodies right, identify the gaps and attack 2016 free agency for mid to late 20s Key Possy players, and a few classy mids 20-23yo.

This gives us a sniff in 2016.

At the moment we are hopelessly sliding down the ladder with no brakes.

What to do with Beams?
Its tough, but can't trade with them this week. It's spineless.

If we tank this year and a couple of other teams tank even better - which they will - we could end up with Pick 5 again, and Swoop will go ballistic!

Deliberate or not, if we finish in the bottom 5 or even bottom 8, I don't think Bucks and Ed could survive past 2015. If we go backwards yet again, the majority of the members and fans will be calling for their heads. I have every reason to believe we will either finish about the same place or higher.

Happy to tank. Boyd, Cameron, Shiel, Coniglio, Treloar, Whitfield, Hoskin-Elliott all out of contract from GWS. Could be great bargaining chip or pre-season draft pick ups available from that lot.

Add Dangerfield, Sloane and Taylor Walker finishing near bottom could be rewarding next season.