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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:09 pm
by Mr Miyagi
piedys wrote:this will be the post game controversy all week now, wont it?
Nah, it’s Maynard getting to play and McCreery not shaking the kids hand. mountain out of a molehill.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:12 pm
by Gerry Cooper
piedys wrote:this will be the post game controversy all week now, wont it?
Maybe not. Fly has already said they will deal with it in house with more "education" for Ginnivan.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:14 pm
by piedys
Gerry Cooper wrote:
piedys wrote:this will be the post game controversy all week now, wont it?
Maybe not. Fly has already said they will deal with it in house with more "education" for Ginnivan.
Well firstly, I guess we need to determine if our players in general, are banned from attending race track meets on any sort during the season, and more specifically, what restrictions were imposed on player's leisure time during finals?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:29 pm
by jonmac1954
piedys wrote:
Gerry Cooper wrote:
piedys wrote:this will be the post game controversy all week now, wont it?
Maybe not. Fly has already said they will deal with it in house with more "education" for Ginnivan.
Well firstly, I guess we need to determine if our players in general, are banned from attending race track meets on any sort during the season, and more specifically, what restrictions were imposed on player's leisure time during finals?
It all comes down to professionalism in my book.

I love Ginni but he just needs to grow up a bit, as a poster on BF said . . . Average footy careers are 4 years . . . the clock is ticking Ginni so if you want it you need to own it.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:47 pm
by Gerry Cooper
piedys wrote:
Gerry Cooper wrote:
piedys wrote:this will be the post game controversy all week now, wont it?
Maybe not. Fly has already said they will deal with it in house with more "education" for Ginnivan.
Well firstly, I guess we need to determine if our players in general, are banned from attending race track meets on any sort during the season, and more specifically, what restrictions were imposed on player's leisure time during finals?
I don't think we know enough about it to make any judgements about it, So whatever the club and football dept decide to do about it is fine with me. It might be its left up to the players to make their own judgements on whats right and what's not. However I doubt you would find Pendles, or even Bobby Hill, out on the punt the night before a grand final.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:48 pm
by Hiss
He is not that great . I like him and love his excitement, but sadly we would be better off trading him

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:49 pm
by Gerry Cooper
jonmac1954 wrote:
piedys wrote:
Gerry Cooper wrote: Maybe not. Fly has already said they will deal with it in house with more "education" for Ginnivan.
Well firstly, I guess we need to determine if our players in general, are banned from attending race track meets on any sort during the season, and more specifically, what restrictions were imposed on player's leisure time during finals?
It all comes down to professionalism in my book.

I love Ginni but he just needs to grow up a bit, as a poster on BF said . . . Average footy careers are 4 years . . . the clock is ticking Ginni so if you want it you need to own it.
Looks to me that Bobby has gone way past him for the small forward role now. Ginnivan may need to reinvent himself if he wants a regular place in the team.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:55 pm
by jonmac1954
Gerry Cooper wrote:
jonmac1954 wrote:
piedys wrote: Well firstly, I guess we need to determine if our players in general, are banned from attending race track meets on any sort during the season, and more specifically, what restrictions were imposed on player's leisure time during finals?
It all comes down to professionalism in my book.

I love Ginni but he just needs to grow up a bit, as a poster on BF said . . . Average footy careers are 4 years . . . the clock is ticking Ginni so if you want it you need to own it.
Looks to me that Bobby has gone way past him for the small forward role now. Ginnivan may need to reinvent himself if he wants a regular place in the team.
Whatever he does he needs to do it now otherwise the train will leave the station without him at some point.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:58 pm
by piedys
DP? delete please mods....

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:07 pm
by Gerry Cooper
piedys wrote:
Gerry Cooper wrote:
piedys wrote:this will be the post game controversy all week now, wont it?
Maybe not. Fly has already said they will deal with it in house with more "education" for Ginnivan.
Well firstly, I guess we need to determine if our players in general, are banned from attending race track meets on any sort during the season, and more specifically, what restrictions were imposed on player's leisure time during finals?
It seems the club knew about it according to this. So NFA basically.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1046640/col ... -dividends

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:22 pm
by piedys
Gerry Cooper wrote:It seems the club knew about it according to this. So NFA basically.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1046640/col ... -dividends
Well that ends any speculating and second-guessing; that club stamped it, so all over red rover.

Go da PIES! 8)

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:41 pm
by SwansWay
I don’t know why our fans go nuts over him personally, having shown very little since his anomalous 2022 season. To the extent where certain posters were deriding Bobby Hill earlier in the year saying he had nothing on Ginni. He’s got an unearned reputation as a great player and is carried by his team mates. I think John Noble deserved a spot ahead of him. He at least would’ve busted his arse and created some chaos. At least Billy was structurally important and did his role for any naysayers who want to mock his selfless disciplined game.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:42 pm
by SwansWay
DP

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:04 pm
by K
Gerry Cooper wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:I think Fly was a little disappointed after he'd shown faith in Ginni by making some big selection calls and that's how he repays him.

If he'd had a great game it would have all been forgotten, but he had a game to forget as well!
He was probably our least effective player. Was unsighted for much of the game. Not a good look for a player who was out enjoying himself the night before a grand final.
His decision on the set shot to kick around the corner instead of drop punt was a :shock: moment...

'Cos he did this in an H&A game and didn't score. TV guys asked him 'bout it in the rooms after the game. He said he thought it was a mistake. Too far, he said.

So he says it... And then repeats exactly the same thing in a GF. :shock: (Looked to me the same distance too.)

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:13 pm
by K
piedys wrote:
Gerry Cooper wrote:It seems the club knew about it according to this. So NFA basically.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1046640/col ... -dividends
Well that ends any speculating and second-guessing; that club stamped it, so all over red rover.
...
Nothing in that says the club rubber stamped it beforehand.

I reckon the "He did it with Collingwood's blessing" line just refers to Craig Kelly's media stuff on Saturday. And we don't know what Kelly really thinks.

It's very unlikely Ginnivan woulda told the club about it before we went.