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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:02 pm
by Pies4shaw
Straight back into the senior side at the first opportunity. He's our best forward by miles.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:47 pm
by watt price tully
Pies4shaw wrote:Straight back into the senior side at the first opportunity. He's our best forward by miles.
Agreed just not sure who goes out for him at this point in time (still two weeks away so plenty of time) and a great problem to have.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:33 pm
by LaurieHolden
"Those that you speak to at Collingwood say that Hill had gone past him and McCreery applies pressure like no one else in that forward line."

Matthew Lloyd says that even after his ban is over, Jack Ginnivan might not get his spot straight back.

https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/ ... nxEWw&s=19

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:00 pm
by masoncox
What a great problem to have
Fitting in Gini.....he only kicked 40 goals plus last year.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:31 pm
by RudeBoy
As much as I luv Ginni, I can't see him squeezing his way into our forward line any time soon. He may have to wait for an injury to someone. His problem is that both Bobby Hill and McCreery have blitzing pace, which is crucial to our game style.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:29 am
by Pies2016
The key to Ginnivans return will be his fitness. He wasn’t a quick player last year but it didn’t stop him kicking 40 odd along the way.
It would seem McCreery doesn’t need to be a goal kicker in order to fit into Flys plans, so the question remains, what are the scoreboard expectations of Hill in order to hold his spot. I think we can all safely assume he’s meeting the coaches pressure expectations.
There’s also McInnes to consider, it seems Fly wants to give him AFL game time and reward his breakout preseason form. Coaches look to reward strong pre season form where they can because that sets the bar for other players to aspire to and this is what also may go against Ginnivan in the short term at least.
There will be injuries and there will horses for courses match ups, so Ginnivan will get his chance soon enough but he would do well to make the most of it because there’s more than enough competition breathing down his neck right now.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:27 pm
by Jezza
It's a selection headache.

I find it hard to believe a player who scored 40 goals last year wouldn't be selected in the 22 as soon as he's available.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:53 pm
by Uncle Jack
Add to the dilemma, how to squeeze in a fit and firing Ash Johnson if and when.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:41 pm
by RudeBoy
There's every chance that someone will get injured this week. If that happens, then no doubt Ginni will be the first one to come in.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:57 pm
by Take_a_Screamer
Well, the coach is impressed with him...

“I’ve been really impressed”: McRae praises Ginnivan’s attitude since drug indiscretion
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/03/22/ ... fter-drug/

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:30 pm
by Magpietothemax
Jezza wrote:It's a selection headache.

I find it hard to believe a player who scored 40 goals last year wouldn't be selected in the 22 as soon as he's available.
So true. The fact that we are wondering whether or not Ginni is an automatic selection in R3 is astonishing.
We are drowning in a plethora of riches!

Is it possible to play both Ginni and Bobby in the same team?
I feel that such a possiblity might arise if we decided to go for a short forward line under certain conditions.
Our coaching team has massive problem solving tasks, but of a very attractive kind. Which permutation/combination of forwards is optimal? How does Ash Johnson fit into the picture? Shoud McInnes play mostly forward?
The myriad possiblities creates a really extraordinary level of complexity for our coaching team. Such a challenge will test them. But I am confident they will find highly creative and effective solutions. They have proven themselves already.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:43 pm
by LaurieHolden
Jezza wrote:It's a selection headache.

I find it hard to believe a player who scored 40 goals last year wouldn't be selected in the 22 as soon as he's available.
Given he's only played in a intra-club practice match, it's logical that his interrupted pre-season will go against him to come straight back in.
Johnson will be ahead of him at this stage. He looked sharp on the weekend.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:32 pm
by RudeBoy
I can't see Fly dropping any of our forwards any time soon, just to squeeze Ginni in. He may have to wait for an injury to one of our current forwards before he gets a senior birth.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:35 pm
by Meredith1965
^ a nice wait will do him no harm, as a reminder that being an idiot can have unpredictable costs.

He is a good player, but it is not clear how good, now that his head-ducking trick has been ruled out of the game.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:33 pm
by What'sinaname
watt price tully wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:Straight back into the senior side at the first opportunity. He's our best forward by miles.
Agreed just not sure who goes out for him at this point in time (still two weeks away so plenty of time) and a great problem to have.
Seems like the coach disagrees with both of you on this one. Ginni to play VFL.