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You know, we joke about it, but sreiosuly I sat down and watch five minutes of 'The Circle' and I tried to understand what it must be like to be a housewife with young kids and no career and nothing to do all day but sit and watch The Circle. I could literally feel my mind and my soul melting away. I didn't even have the void to comfort me such was the vastness of the nothingstui magpie wrote:There's an opportunity for you right thereNick - Pie Man wrote:Bored housewives looking for an escape from their private hell I daresay
Oh, I'd bet on it: groveling, corporate lawyer-scripted, 'sincere' apologies. And they'll be public because the public needs to know that making fun of Our Troops is just not on. God bless Australia.OEP wrote:The private apologies made to Corporal Roberts-Smith were half-hearted, as alluded to by him during a morning show interview, and in any event a public apology should be made by both of them. The insulting remarks were made on the national stage and so should the apologies.
You can make some very immature comments at times David. Also please don't make reference to the Australian soldiers as being "Our Troops" because that would include you in the "Our" and clearly you have no respect for them or what they do.David wrote:Oh, I'd bet on it: groveling, corporate lawyer-scripted, 'sincere' apologies. And they'll be public because the public needs to know that making fun of Our Troops is just not on. God bless Australia.OEP wrote:The private apologies made to Corporal Roberts-Smith were half-hearted, as alluded to by him during a morning show interview, and in any event a public apology should be made by both of them. The insulting remarks were made on the national stage and so should the apologies.
where were you in combat?rocketronnie wrote:Because nationalistic chest beating is always a good substitute for real thought my friend. Most soldiers loath it and always have. Its the sort of stuff reserved for self important civilians, newspaper proprietors, and those who have never seen action tucked safely away behind the lines with no intention of going anywhere near anywhere dangerous. Most civilians can't understand that most soldiers in combat are fighting for themselves. maybe for their section and that the rest of the eyewash, the regiment, the nation, the flag, the folks back home, do not matter one bit.pietillidie wrote:By the way, once you've consoled enough soldiers draped over bars in a pool of nihilism you know the tough talk is a load of Hollywood codswallop, too. Why people talk tough on behalf of soldiers who themselves don't talk tough is always beyond me.
Respect for doing a very tough job well, I say. Silly mythology not required.
Most civilians have no idea of what war is actually like and quite frankly, they wouldn't want to either. Instead they are addicted to the notion of national service, flag and country. Most of them have no idea of the military history they espouse to respect so much. They are given a few myths in school and from TV and they think that's real. Most of it is crap. The pile of crap has got so high, you would think that being cannon fodder is almost the only thing we are good at (apart from sports of course). The populist histories that have deluged our bookshop's shelves over the past few years haven't helped either. Most of them are worthless apart from one or two gems. They only add to the crap pile instead of reducing it.
Such is life I guess.....
+1OEP wrote:Irrespective of your feelings about soldiers or the nature of the Victorian Cross the comments made were completely unnecessary, personal in their nature, highly insulting, and made on a national stage.
These comments were always going to picked up by the media network and broadcast over and over again, a seasoned professional like Negus must have known this yet he still chose to make his comment. Yumi is immature and inexperienced and it showed.
The private apologies made to Corporal Roberts-Smith were half-hearted, as alluded to by him during a morning show interview, and in any event a public apology should be made by both of them. The insulting remarks were made on the national stage and so should the apologies.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/842 ... g-war-heroNick - Pie Man wrote:I haven't seen the insulting comments
They must have been along the lines of 'he's a soldier because he's not smart enough to get a real job' right?
I've been under active fire in a war zone, if that's what you are after - not that it means anything. I've had long talks with the solders who were there alongside me.think positive wrote:where were you in combat?rocketronnie wrote:Because nationalistic chest beating is always a good substitute for real thought my friend. Most soldiers loath it and always have. Its the sort of stuff reserved for self important civilians, newspaper proprietors, and those who have never seen action tucked safely away behind the lines with no intention of going anywhere near anywhere dangerous. Most civilians can't understand that most soldiers in combat are fighting for themselves. maybe for their section and that the rest of the eyewash, the regiment, the nation, the flag, the folks back home, do not matter one bit.pietillidie wrote:By the way, once you've consoled enough soldiers draped over bars in a pool of nihilism you know the tough talk is a load of Hollywood codswallop, too. Why people talk tough on behalf of soldiers who themselves don't talk tough is always beyond me.
Respect for doing a very tough job well, I say. Silly mythology not required.
Most civilians have no idea of what war is actually like and quite frankly, they wouldn't want to either. Instead they are addicted to the notion of national service, flag and country. Most of them have no idea of the military history they espouse to respect so much. They are given a few myths in school and from TV and they think that's real. Most of it is crap. The pile of crap has got so high, you would think that being cannon fodder is almost the only thing we are good at (apart from sports of course). The populist histories that have deluged our bookshop's shelves over the past few years haven't helped either. Most of them are worthless apart from one or two gems. They only add to the crap pile instead of reducing it.
Such is life I guess.....