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Cox was really impressive I thought but perhaps not ready for senior football just yet. He moves well for such a big man and his contested marking was very good, one grab stuff. He missed a couple of goals he should've kicked but his kicking technique is very sound and I reckon he'll remedy that given more experience.

He dominated the ruck (though to be fair he enjoyed a massive height advantage over the Port bloke) and his tap work was good at times without being outstanding. Does anyone know how many hitouts he actually won?
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Link to Stats are in the VFL magpies game day thread courtesy of Magpie Bat. Cox had 36 hitouts.
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stui magpie wrote:^

Link to Stats are in the VFL magpies game day thread courtesy of Magpie Bat. Cox had 36 hitouts.
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36 hit outs and probably should've kicked 3 or 4, he plays this week IMO.
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RudeBoy wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:Cox was solid and showed potential, without demanding inclusion. 8 kicks, 6 handballs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 36 hitouts and 1 goal 3 behinds was a good enough afternoon's work for him to be rated in Collingwood's top half-dozen in the VFL. He might come up after that display but he's no certainty.

Toovey looked great (and, IMO, won them the game) - he looks to have his closing speed back (although one does have to be cautious because the pace in the VFL is generally much slower) and, while he has that, he should be in our starting defensive six, despite his faults, because he is our most versatile lock-down player by some considerable margin. He did demand a recall and, on that performance, really must come up to the seniors next week. Smith was also very impressive and, although he looks to me to need more weight on him before he could be influential at senior level, he certainly kicks the ball beautifully and over long distances.

Broomhead was OK and will be better for the run but he is another week or two off a senior game. Macaffer was very influential and they will be tempted to recall him to the seniors for the next game - he still looked off the pace at times to me, though.

Wills had more of the ball than anyone (30 disposals) but IMO he isn't ready for senior football, yet. He is obviously more than comfortable in the VFL, though, and I will watch his further development with interest.

It was a shame to see Marsh pull his hamstring because he was very good in the first half. Frost was solid without getting much of the ball. I couldn't recommend White for a defensive post based on that game (he doesn't really have a clue about when to punch and when to go for a mark) but he did some good things.

Otherwise, Crocker and Wyatt showed some skill up forward (Crocker is a very good kick for goal, it appears) but need time and more of the ball, whilst Phillips and Sier were encouraging, without pressing for senior selection. Gault was disappointing - he did a reasonable job rucking, but he would need to get his hands on the foot way more often (only 7 disposals) before he could be considered again for senior selection.
I didn't see the game, but was under the impression that Josh Smith was one of our best, yet you didn't even mention him. I suspect he's a chance.
Which part of "Smith was also very impressive and, although he looks to me to need more weight on him before he could be influential at senior level, he certainly kicks the ball beautifully and over long distances" did you miss, RB? :wink:
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Pies4shaw wrote:Cox was solid and showed potential, without demanding inclusion. 8 kicks, 6 handballs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 36 hitouts and 1 goal 3 behinds was a good enough afternoon's work for him to be rated in Collingwood's top half-dozen in the VFL. He might come up after that display but he's no certainty.

Toovey looked great (and, IMO, won them the game) - he looks to have his closing speed back (although one does have to be cautious because the pace in the VFL is generally much slower) and, while he has that, he should be in our starting defensive six, despite his faults, because he is our most versatile lock-down player by some considerable margin. He did demand a recall and, on that performance, really must come up to the seniors next week. Smith was also very impressive and, although he looks to me to need more weight on him before he could be influential at senior level, he certainly kicks the ball beautifully and over long distances.

Broomhead was OK and will be better for the run but he is another week or two off a senior game. Macaffer was very influential and they will be tempted to recall him to the seniors for the next game - he still looked off the pace at times to me, though.

Wills had more of the ball than anyone (30 disposals) but IMO he isn't ready for senior football, yet. He is obviously more than comfortable in the VFL, though, and I will watch his further development with interest.

It was a shame to see Marsh pull his hamstring because he was very good in the first half. Frost was solid without getting much of the ball. I couldn't recommend White for a defensive post based on that game (he doesn't really have a clue about when to punch and when to go for a mark) but he did some good things.

Otherwise, Crocker and Wyatt showed some skill up forward (Crocker is a very good kick for goal, it appears) but need time and more of the ball, whilst Phillips and Sier were encouraging, without pressing for senior selection. Gault was disappointing - he did a reasonable job rucking, but he would need to get his hands on the foot way more often (only 7 disposals) before he could be considered again for senior selection.
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Yes he did, didn't he.
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Pies4shaw wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:Cox was solid and showed potential, without demanding inclusion. 8 kicks, 6 handballs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 36 hitouts and 1 goal 3 behinds was a good enough afternoon's work for him to be rated in Collingwood's top half-dozen in the VFL. He might come up after that display but he's no certainty.

Toovey looked great (and, IMO, won them the game) - he looks to have his closing speed back (although one does have to be cautious because the pace in the VFL is generally much slower) and, while he has that, he should be in our starting defensive six, despite his faults, because he is our most versatile lock-down player by some considerable margin. He did demand a recall and, on that performance, really must come up to the seniors next week. Smith was also very impressive and, although he looks to me to need more weight on him before he could be influential at senior level, he certainly kicks the ball beautifully and over long distances.

Broomhead was OK and will be better for the run but he is another week or two off a senior game. Macaffer was very influential and they will be tempted to recall him to the seniors for the next game - he still looked off the pace at times to me, though.

Wills had more of the ball than anyone (30 disposals) but IMO he isn't ready for senior football, yet. He is obviously more than comfortable in the VFL, though, and I will watch his further development with interest.

It was a shame to see Marsh pull his hamstring because he was very good in the first half. Frost was solid without getting much of the ball. I couldn't recommend White for a defensive post based on that game (he doesn't really have a clue about when to punch and when to go for a mark) but he did some good things.

Otherwise, Crocker and Wyatt showed some skill up forward (Crocker is a very good kick for goal, it appears) but need time and more of the ball, whilst Phillips and Sier were encouraging, without pressing for senior selection. Gault was disappointing - he did a reasonable job rucking, but he would need to get his hands on the foot way more often (only 7 disposals) before he could be considered again for senior selection.
I didn't see the game, but was under the impression that Josh Smith was one of our best, yet you didn't even mention him. I suspect he's a chance.
Which part of "Smith was also very impressive and, although he looks to me to need more weight on him before he could be influential at senior level, he certainly kicks the ball beautifully and over long distances" did you miss, RB? :wink:
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Geelongpie wrote:No one in this game was really any good tbh.
I get we all want something magical to pop out of the vfl and save our season but on yesterday's game it isn't happening.
Just a meh standard with each player doing there thing to get over the line.
Cox had 2 shots on goal in the 3rd quarter both from the top of the square and missed both.

just exactly what we need!!!! he will likely do exactly the same at AFL level with one difference - he probably wont get the shots on goal (or get anywhere near the ball for that matter).
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E wrote:
Geelongpie wrote:No one in this game was really any good tbh.
I get we all want something magical to pop out of the vfl and save our season but on yesterday's game it isn't happening.
Just a meh standard with each player doing there thing to get over the line.
Cox had 2 shots on goal in the 3rd quarter both from the top of the square and missed both.

just exactly what we need!!!! he will likely do exactly the same at AFL level with one difference - he probably wont get the shots on goal (or get anywhere near the ball for that matter).
And that would be different to any other options?
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Bob Sugar wrote:
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Geelongpie wrote:No one in this game was really any good tbh.
I get we all want something magical to pop out of the vfl and save our season but on yesterday's game it isn't happening.
Just a meh standard with each player doing there thing to get over the line.
Cox had 2 shots on goal in the 3rd quarter both from the top of the square and missed both.

just exactly what we need!!!! he will likely do exactly the same at AFL level with one difference - he probably wont get the shots on goal (or get anywhere near the ball for that matter).
And that would be different to any other options?
Cloke played a great game on the weekend don't you think? you never did get back to us with your views on who we have in the magoos who deserves Cloke's spot?
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E wrote:
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just exactly what we need!!!! he will likely do exactly the same at AFL level with one difference - he probably wont get the shots on goal (or get anywhere near the ball for that matter).
And that would be different to any other options?
Cloke played a great game on the weekend don't you think? you never did get back to us with your views on who we have in the magoos who deserves Cloke's spot?
I'd play White ahead of Cloke, and no Cloke was damn shithouse as usual.
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