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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:47 pm
by Piesnchess
Take_a_Screamer wrote:AFL Trade Radio
"As of this morning he has agreed to be traded to Hawthorn. Both teams met last night to hash out the deal. Both clubs agreed to swap future second round picks as the basis of the deal. Ginnivan hadn't requested a trade, but has now agreed to be traded."
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I can't understand why some Nicksters here are so angry at Ginni. Look at the facts and you understand why his management wanted to move him (afterall they are looking after themselves too). Personally, I was dissapointed to learn he is leaving. A crowd favourite and provides a lot of entertainment, plus he is young...we've heard the arguments.
I now move on and look forward to the draft picks, the pre-season, the new players fitting in the club...and ultimately ramming the opposition in Round 1.
AND when the Hawks, our bogey team, beat us yet again, our record against them is shocking, they even defeated us this season, and he boots goals against us in a vital Final, we can be real happy hey ??
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:48 pm
by think positive
woodys_world69 wrote:Haff wrote:Calm down all, Schultz > Ginni.
After 2020 we shouldnt be too stressed.
We've improved our list. Adams didnt fit int he midfield anymore, Ginni wasnt best 22 and perhaps he gets there next season but I'd be lying if I was confident.
Schultz slots into our best 10 at least. Adams had an anchor and Ginni no way.
We're in the window, not many premiership teams try and trade for pick 1. Pies more than any other side have perfected the moneyball team so I am very happy with the current state.
Schultz is no doubt better than Ginni, but we gave up pick 34 and a future round 1 pick and Ginni
I dont think Schultz is N. Daicos 2.0 here lol
um.... go watch the highlights reels! Schultz tackles and THEY STICK LIKE SUPER GLUE!
he doesnt have to be Nick Daicos!
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:50 pm
by Piesnchess
Yeh fabulous Phil locked by boo Jack thread, fussy lad is Phil.
So, WILL U BOOO JACK GINNIVAN NEXT SEASON AND BEYOND ??
I sure as hell will, boo loud enough, he might fall over. !!
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:50 pm
by robevpau1
The full deal.
Collingwood gets: 33, Haw's F2 + Haw's F3
Hawthorn gets: Ginnivan, 39, Coll's F2 + Coll's F4
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:50 pm
by pablo
Clearly toxic. This is an unusual trade and the current management at Collingwood are not mugs, by any stretch.
There is a deeper story here.
Potentially as critical as, sack JG or lose the playing group, if any rumours are true.
Long and short, the new Collingwood hasn't put a foot wrong and I trust the management we have in place.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:51 pm
by think positive
woodys_world69 wrote:Haff wrote:Calm down all, Schultz > Ginni.
After 2020 we shouldnt be too stressed.
We've improved our list. Adams didnt fit int he midfield anymore, Ginni wasnt best 22 and perhaps he gets there next season but I'd be lying if I was confident.
Schultz slots into our best 10 at least. Adams had an anchor and Ginni no way.
We're in the window, not many premiership teams try and trade for pick 1. Pies more than any other side have perfected the moneyball team so I am very happy with the current state.
Schultz is no doubt better than Ginni, but we gave up pick 34 and a future round 1 pick and Ginni
I dont think Schultz is N. Daicos 2.0 here lol
um.... go watch the highlights reels! Schultz tackles and THEY STICK LIKE SUPER GLUE!
he doesnt have to be Nick Daicos!
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:51 pm
by jonmac1954
Take_a_Screamer wrote:AFL Trade Radio
"As of this morning he has agreed to be traded to Hawthorn. Both teams met last night to hash out the deal. Both clubs agreed to swap future second round picks as the basis of the deal. Ginnivan hadn't requested a trade, but has now agreed to be traded."
---
I can't understand why some Nicksters here are so angry at Ginni. Look at the facts and you understand why his management wanted to move him (afterall they are looking after themselves too). Personally, I was dissapointed to learn he is leaving. A crowd favourite and provides a lot of entertainment, plus he is young...we've heard the arguments.
I now move on and look forward to the draft picks, the pre-season, the new players fitting in the club...and ultimately ramming the opposition in Round 1. Looking forward to an exciting 2024 and expect back-to-back flags.
Once the Shultz deal went through the writing was on the wall. I was happy for him to stay but he was always going to be under the hammer from the umps which is a huge handicap.
More interested on who we can get as a good tall for our backline with both Howe and Murph on their last legs.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:53 pm
by Piesnchess
think positive wrote:Phil locked the boo thread
yes, if I feel its warranted I will boo the **** out of the gutless punk!
boo for a duck,
boo for a goal,
boo for a cheap shot,
-nah he's not brave enough for that,
booo ****!
he wanted to go,
he had a year left to fight for his spot.
he read the room and stuck his finger up at it.
well **** you too Jack!
Well saiid TP, boo hell out of him, he might fall over.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:53 pm
by think positive
robevpau1 wrote:The full deal.
Collingwood gets: 33, Haw's F2 + Haw's F3
Hawthorn gets: Ginnivan, 39, Coll's F2 + Coll's F4
sounds fair.
when do we play em?
payback x 2!
for Naicos, and against the chickenshit gutless quitter!
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:53 pm
by ANNODAM
It’s what happened with Grundy this year on KB, he kicked a goal & in the end, it was the difference.
I was upset Grundy left, I was upset that TA left, I am now upset that Ginni has left.
With Grundy & TA they don’t have medals, Ginni does & now his face is in every GF poster we own, it saddens me he is no longer at the Club but at the same token, I don’t want anyone at CFC if they’re not going to commit 100%
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:54 pm
by think positive
pablo wrote:Clearly toxic. This is an unusual trade and the current management at Collingwood are not mugs, by any stretch.
There is a deeper story here.
Potentially as critical as, sack JG or lose the playing group, if any rumours are true.
Long and short, the new Collingwood hasn't put a foot wrong and I trust the management we have in place.
agree
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:55 pm
by jonmac1954
think positive wrote:woodys_world69 wrote:Haff wrote:Calm down all, Schultz > Ginni.
After 2020 we shouldnt be too stressed.
We've improved our list. Adams didnt fit int he midfield anymore, Ginni wasnt best 22 and perhaps he gets there next season but I'd be lying if I was confident.
Schultz slots into our best 10 at least. Adams had an anchor and Ginni no way.
We're in the window, not many premiership teams try and trade for pick 1. Pies more than any other side have perfected the moneyball team so I am very happy with the current state.
Schultz is no doubt better than Ginni, but we gave up pick 34 and a future round 1 pick and Ginni
I dont think Schultz is N. Daicos 2.0 here lol
um.... go watch the highlights reels! Schultz tackles and THEY STICK LIKE SUPER GLUE!
he doesnt have to be Nick Daicos!
A forward that kicks the amount of goals he does and tackles almost as well as McCreery and can run through the center plus has an established consistent record is a late first round pick for mine.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:55 pm
by Gerry Cooper
Piesnchess wrote:
AND when the Hawks, our bogey team, beat us yet again, our record against them is shocking, they even defeated us this season, and he boots goals against us in a vital Final, we can be real happy hey ??
Which is predicated on them actually making finals and on recent performances that won't be any time soon (Maybe not before Hawthorn ships Ginnivan off to the Gold Coast).
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:56 pm
by pablo
think positive wrote:pablo wrote:Clearly toxic. This is an unusual trade and the current management at Collingwood are not mugs, by any stretch.
There is a deeper story here.
Potentially as critical as, sack JG or lose the playing group, if any rumours are true.
Long and short, the new Collingwood hasn't put a foot wrong and I trust the management we have in place.
agree
In fact, without knowing the backstory, this may be a win for Collingwood and we owe Hawthorn a thank you - Graham Wright's skill might have shone through. Actually not kidding.
Everyone needs to take a moment to think about what's actually going on here.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:58 pm
by BBHS
See ya buddy, Premiership player you will always be. But with the brains of a bin chicken.