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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:19 pm
by What'sinaname
Piesnchess wrote: Frampton says hello. :o
Well, Frampton's possession was contested. Ginni was the only player on the ground in the GF without a contested possession.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:22 pm
by Gerry Cooper
Piesnchess wrote:
Gerry Cooper wrote:
SwansWay wrote: Well I don’t know about premiership player. More like a premiership bystander.
No contested possessions in a winning grand final team. That speaks volumes.


Frampton says hello. :o
Unlike your precious little show-pony Billy did what was expected of him in a very disciplined performance, sacrificing his own game to stop one of Brisbane's best players having a big influence. What did your "superstar" achieve? (apart from make up the numbers). :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:31 pm
by Piesnchess
Gerry Cooper wrote:
Piesnchess wrote:
Gerry Cooper wrote: No contested possessions in a winning grand final team. That speaks volumes.


Frampton says hello. :o
Unlike your precious little show-pony Billy did what was expected of him in a very disciplined performance, sacrificing his own game to stop one of Brisbane's best players having a big influence. What did your "superstar" achieve? (apart from make up the numbers). :lol:


Cant hack the truth hey. OK let a kid go to the Hawks, whom we can never beat anyway, even this season, we lost, our record against Hawthorn is utter shit, we never beat em, ever hardly. Now this kid goes there, Mitchell straightens him right out, he really puts in, starts bagging lots of goals, -as he did for us in 2022-, Hawks make finals, so do we, we play them, Prelim, we lose by 3 goals , and he kicks 3 of em against us.

Will THAT make your day, then, ?? Be careful what you wish for, Karma can be a real bitch at times, sunshine. :o

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:32 pm
by Deja Vu
All these contracted players requesting trades. There’s clearly a culture problem at Collingwood!!!

Or…

Maybe the people in charge know what they’re doing

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:33 pm
by Pies4shaw
^ Absolutely. Without Frampton dropping uncontested marks directly in front of goal and thereby making it extremely difficult for Brisbane to take our forwards seriously, we could never have won that Grand Final. :roll:

As for Billy's repeated holds on Andrews on the outer wing - they were masterstrokes: the best way to unsettle an intercepting defence is to gift them the ball unopposed. He did that manfully.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:36 pm
by Piesnchess
Pies4shaw wrote:^ Absolutely. Without Frampton dropping uncontested marks directly in front of goal and thereby making it extremely difficult for Brisbane to take our forwards seriously, we could never have won that Grand Final. :roll:

As for Billy's repeated holds on Andrews on the outer wing - they were masterstrokes: the best way to unsettle an intercepting defence is to gift them the ball unopposed. He did that manfully.


Well said, correct. 8)

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:36 pm
by Charlie Oneeye
Kingsofclutch wrote:
Charlie Oneeye wrote:Maybe pick swap 39 for 33, and their pick 44
Think Wrighty said we are only taking 2 picks and an upgrade, no need for 44.
Yes, That was before this scenario

With Ginni gone, we may have a 3rd.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:38 pm
by Piesnchess
As far as I can tell, the Club has said nothing on this, so its no dice.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:46 pm
by Presti35
Brandon Ryan going to the Lions...? Let's go for him then.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:57 pm
by Mr Miyagi
Pies4shaw wrote:^ Absolutely. Without Frampton dropping uncontested marks directly in front of goal and thereby making it extremely difficult for Brisbane to take our forwards seriously, we could never have won that Grand Final. :roll:

As for Billy's repeated holds on Andrews on the outer wing - they were masterstrokes: the best way to unsettle an intercepting defence is to gift them the ball unopposed. He did that manfully.
when you put it like that, he deserved the norm smith

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:18 pm
by Pies4shaw
Mr Miyagi wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:^ Absolutely. Without Frampton dropping uncontested marks directly in front of goal and thereby making it extremely difficult for Brisbane to take our forwards seriously, we could never have won that Grand Final. :roll:

As for Billy's repeated holds on Andrews on the outer wing - they were masterstrokes: the best way to unsettle an intercepting defence is to gift them the ball unopposed. He did that manfully.
when you put it like that, he deserved the norm smith
Just so we're clear, my view is that we don't play favourites about premiership contributions. Otherewise, we quickly get into the area of asking whether so and so really deserved their medal at all. Frampton played a role. I have no idea whether he did it to the Coach's satisfaction - for all I know he might have exceeded expectations.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:18 pm
by Pep
Mitch Cleary has said Hawks have offered Ginni 4 years.

Which is why maybe his head has been turned, what would that mean for a trade?

We have up a future 1st and 34 for Schultz, as he's 25, contracted, kicked 30 goals this and last year, came 5th in there BnF, 2 time derby medalist

Ginni is 20, contracted, kicked 40 goals last year, 12 goals from 14 games this year, many as a sub, ANZAC Day medalist and premiership medalist. But comes with a bit of baggage.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:43 pm
by Haff
Anyone else heard this Daniel McStay rumour? Doubtful it’s true..

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:47 pm
by piffdog
This thread has turned to shit. Some real Big Footy level tit-for-tat going on here. He might stay, more likely he goes. And no amount of harping on here will change any of that.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:48 pm
by The Black and White Lion
Haff wrote:Anyone else heard this Daniel McStay rumour? Doubtful it’s true..
What is the Dan McStay rumour?

Is the Ginnivan trade another example of the Anzac Day Medal curse on a rookie player. Hope he goes the way of Mark McGough if he does trade it. If he grew up a Hawk fanboy and wants to play for them so be it, lets win the trade this time.

Otherwise it sounds like he really needs to be straightened out once and for all.