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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:03 pm
by The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Presti35 wrote:Good stuff Harvey.

I'm happy to upgrade 30 and 48 to 23.
I'd be happy for that too, but I suspect those high numbers wont cut it for 23, pity.

Surely we can swap 5, 48 and something (Blair 8) ) to the Dees for 3. If we can't get what we want at 5 it's pointless having it and we might as well upgrade 30 to the low 20's.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:09 pm
by swoop42
Trade period over.

We got to the draft with 5, 30 and 48 (I hope we use it).

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:15 pm
by swoop42
I hope we don't use pick 5 on a small forward in Pickett.

We need to add some players now who can add some size and strength to our midfield rotations for the years to come.

Still not discounting we'll go for Wright if he slips to 5 though, even if he would appear surplus to our needs.

The big advantage of us taking Wright that I see in the short term is that he should hold his trade value.

Who's to say that Cameron doesn't do a Boyd next season and demand a trade to Collingwood?

Wright and our first selection should get the deal done.

Likewise in 2 years time Petracca might be convinced to join the club he supported as a kid and a straight swap is all that is required.

Then there is the possibility Wright kills it more than Moore, Grundy or Witts over the next 2 seasons and we're stoked to have him.

If Wright is gone by selection 5 then I think we take Laverde (or might prefer him anyway) as that taller point of difference prospect just ahead of the more genuine and smaller midfield types like Ahern.

I think we can still land a promising powerful genuine mid at 30 in someone like Gore or an athletic strong bodied flanker type like Maynard.

If we end up using pick 48 one of Langdon, or McLean might be still available as small forward options or a key position prospect like Keitel at a stretch.

Pick 5 Wright/Laverde/Ahern/Weller

Pick 30 Gore/Maynard/Menadue

Pick 48 McLean/Langdon/Lonie/Keitel/McDonald

I'd be happy if we come away with any one of those players at there respective draft pick.

In Hine we trust.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:17 pm
by Harvey
So as it stands, if we want to use pick 30 we'll need to delist another player and if we want to use 48 as a live pick rather than to upgrade Frost, we'll need to delist 2 players?

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:21 pm
by The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Might as well make the topic now - Welcome to Collingwood Laverde, Wright will be surely gone.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:24 pm
by AN_Inkling
There's no way Laverde is the only other option. He's not close to a top 5 lock. At this point the field is wide open. Still 6 weeks out, the landscape will look very different a week or two out.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:00 pm
by The Boy Who Cried Wolf
So I'm wondering, what stops draft prospects saying to a club:

'Don't draft me I'm not interested and won't play for your club under any circumstances'?

Or alternatively

'Ok draft me but I'll only sign a one year deal and I want to be traded to the team of my choice (aka Buckley)'

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:16 pm
by RudeBoy
The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:So I'm wondering, what stops draft prospects saying to a club:

'Don't draft me I'm not interested and won't play for your club under any circumstances'?

Or alternatively

'Ok draft me but I'll only sign a one year deal and I want to be traded to the team of my choice (aka Buckley)'
Players have to declare their willingness to play for any club which drafts them. To do otherwise can lead them being disqualified from being in the draft.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:18 pm
by Az
The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:So I'm wondering, what stops draft prospects saying to a club:

'Don't draft me I'm not interested and won't play for your club under any circumstances'?

Or alternatively

'Ok draft me but I'll only sign a one year deal and I want to be traded to the team of my choice (aka Buckley)'
I don't know for sure but I suppose your nomination for the draft could be rejected by the AFL if you're discovered to be tampering. I suppose that doesn't include deliberately acting like a douch bag in your interviews to turn certain clubs off you as that would be difficult to police. I know if I were set to be a top pick I would do anything in my power to not be selected by Melbourne.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:29 pm
by swoop42
Hopefully Petracca will want out in 2 years from the shit hole that is St kilda or Melbourne.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:43 pm
by jackcass
RudeBoy wrote:
The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:So I'm wondering, what stops draft prospects saying to a club:

'Don't draft me I'm not interested and won't play for your club under any circumstances'?

Or alternatively

'Ok draft me but I'll only sign a one year deal and I want to be traded to the team of my choice (aka Buckley)'
Players have to declare their willingness to play for any club which drafts them. To do otherwise can lead them being disqualified from being in the draft.
Still doesn't stop Player X saying he's happy to be drafted to any team but they should be aware that he ultimately wants to be with family and will seek to get home at the first opportunity.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:03 pm
by STOKA35
Dean Gore and josh hone or peter bampton

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:14 pm
by watt price tully
Pick 5: Brayshaw or Laverde for mine in that order.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:24 pm
by RudeBoy
watt price tully wrote:Pick 5: Brayshaw or Laverde for mine in that order.
In order, mine are Brayshaw, Laverde, Ahern.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:28 pm
by watt price tully
RudeBoy wrote:
watt price tully wrote:Pick 5: Brayshaw or Laverde for mine in that order.
In order, mine are Brayshaw, Laverde, Ahern.
I'll see you an Ahern (say that fast) & raise you a Pickett :wink: