Thinking ahead to 2023 draft...

[Kingsofclutch]

Let's roll the dice on George the animal Stevens, he looks like Sier on steroids.

[LaurieHolden]

Who are the prospects that could be added to Collingwood’s premiership list?

Summary :

Riley Weatherill: The Eastern Ranges key forward led the Talent League goalkicking this year, with his 2.5 goal-per-game rate netting him 37 majors for the season. He booted 13 goals across his four finals appearances to take his game to a new level when it mattered. Weatherill has clean hands in the air and is also a promising link-up player inside forward 50. With Weatherill likely a late draft selection if taken, the Pies might be able to make a move for Gippsland Power key forward Archer Reid earlier into the draft if he's available to them.

Zane Zakostelsky: The Western Australian could fill multiple list needs for the Magpies, who might want to add height to their backline as well as bolster their ruck stocks in the one selection. With Collingwood's ruck depths tested earlier this year, coupled with Aiden Begg's unsettled future, Zakostelsky could be a viable option for the Magpies to move for with one of their opening two picks at November's count. The reigning premiers could dip back into the Irish experiment and look at James McLaughlin, while Arie Schoenmaker is a backman potentially of interest with their first-round pick.

George Stevens: When looking toward the pool of bigger-bodied midfielders, Stevens is one of the leading names among this year's crop. The GWV Rebels' young gun is able to play through the middle of the field or across half-back, offering a potential long-term replacement for Jack Crisp or a more immediate depth option following the departure of Taylor Adams. Stevens had a strong carnival for Vic Country and would show off his ready-made traits with a 29-disposal game for Geelong's VFL side, ironically against Collingwood, in August. Dandenong bull Harry DeMattia is another strong ball-winner who could be considered if available in the first round.

Source :
https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-draft-fo ... -2-144961/

[inxs88]

Who are the prospects that could be added to Collingwood’s premiership list?

Summary :

Riley Weatherill: The Eastern Ranges key forward led the Talent League goalkicking this year, with his 2.5 goal-per-game rate netting him 37 majors for the season. He booted 13 goals across his four finals appearances to take his game to a new level when it mattered. Weatherill has clean hands in the air and is also a promising link-up player inside forward 50. With Weatherill likely a late draft selection if taken, the Pies might be able to make a move for Gippsland Power key forward Archer Reid earlier into the draft if he's available to them.

Zane Zakostelsky: The Western Australian could fill multiple list needs for the Magpies, who might want to add height to their backline as well as bolster their ruck stocks in the one selection. With Collingwood's ruck depths tested earlier this year, coupled with Aiden Begg's unsettled future, Zakostelsky could be a viable option for the Magpies to move for with one of their opening two picks at November's count. The reigning premiers could dip back into the Irish experiment and look at James McLaughlin, while Arie Schoenmaker is a backman potentially of interest with their first-round pick.

George Stevens: When looking toward the pool of bigger-bodied midfielders, Stevens is one of the leading names among this year's crop. The GWV Rebels' young gun is able to play through the middle of the field or across half-back, offering a potential long-term replacement for Jack Crisp or a more immediate depth option following the departure of Taylor Adams. Stevens had a strong carnival for Vic Country and would show off his ready-made traits with a 29-disposal game for Geelong's VFL side, ironically against Collingwood, in August. Dandenong bull Harry DeMattia is another strong ball-winner who could be considered if available in the first round.

Source :
https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-draft-fo ... -2-144961/

Great analysis Jack Thompson

[Presti35]

What do we know about James Leake? Heard him on SEN this morning, sounds switched on.

Also interested in peoples thoughts on Shaun Mannagh as a mature age (26yo) recruit? Possibly in the Rookie Draft.

[WhyPhilWhy?]

Would we just be developing James Leake for the Tassie team? Seems a significant risk.

Someone will defo pick up Mannagh.

[WhyPhilWhy?]

[LaurieHolden]

^ I was under the impression that's simply the confirmation of the barrier draw selections before they kick off the formal process.

[gurugeoff]

The media, on one hand, say it is a shallow draft, which falls off a cliff after the first 9 or 10, but then proceeds to give countless articles and lists of dozens and dozens of sliders, untapped gems, bolters etc., all of whom are made to sound fantastic pick ups.

so, which is it?

[Presti35]

The media, on one hand, say it is a shallow draft, which falls off a cliff after the first 9 or 10, but then proceeds to give countless articles and lists of dozens and dozens of sliders, untapped gems, bolters etc., all of whom are made to sound fantastic pick ups.

so, which is it?

EXACTLY.

Good year to look for mature aged talent I reckon.

[LaurieHolden]

With Kelly delisted, looks like we'll use two picks in the draft 19 & 33, then one of the later picks for a rookie upgrade, I suspect Johnson. That leaves us with flexibility for the MSD or a Cat B rookie.

[Marvelos]

The media, on one hand, say it is a shallow draft, which falls off a cliff after the first 9 or 10, but then proceeds to give countless articles and lists of dozens and dozens of sliders, untapped gems, bolters etc., all of whom are made to sound fantastic pick ups.

so, which is it?

Every draft is shallow until a few years later when they realise it wasn’t.

[gurugeoff]

With Kelly delisted, looks like we'll use two picks in the draft 19 & 33, then one of the later picks for a rookie upgrade, I suspect Johnson. That leaves us with flexibility for the MSD or a Cat B rookie.

we have lost 8 players - Adams, Ginnavan, Ruscoe, Bianco, Kelly, Wilson,Draper, Murley and added only 1, so i assume we'll be getting 6 or 7 new players from the various drafts

[LaurieHolden]

we have lost 8 players - Adams, Ginnavan, Ruscoe, Bianco, Kelly, Wilson,Draper, Murley and added only 1, so i assume we'll be getting 6 or 7 new players from the various drafts

The minimum list size for each club in the **2023 AFL season** was 37 players. As it stands, we have 37 (inc. Shultz)

This can be made up by as little as 36 senior listed players and one rookie.
To reach a maximum list size of 44, clubs can carry ~
**36-38 senior listed players;
**four-to-six Category A rookies; and
**two Category B rookies**.

Over the years given the natural attrition of those coming from the organic National Draft, perhaps we'll continue a trend to obtain depth akin to the Leigh Matthews "you need a squad of 30 players to have a tilt at the Premiership" from outside the National Draft. It would appear we have that core number.

To complement the existing core, jagging another Mid-Season Draftee of the likes of Mihocek, Carmichael Ginnivan, Noble, Dean or a Pre-Season Supplemental Selection in Markov appears to have served us better once we moved outside pick #30 in the organic National Draft.

Outside of F/S (Jaicos) we have 3 players currently listed that came on > than pick #30 that have managed a senior berth: [28]. Nathan Murphy (57 games) @ #39, [31]. Beau McCreery (60 games) @ #44 & [36]. Harvey Harrison (4 games) @ #52.

Tom Langdon (89 games) @ #65 in 2013 and Tom Phillips (89 games) @ #58 played the most games we've had from the National draft > pick 30 since 'the Prince of Perth' Alex Fasolo (101 games) @ #45 in 2010.

We've had 11 players play > 100 games that have come after pick #30 since 1981.
Craig Kelly (122 games) @ #34 in 1986 ; Scott Russell (182 games) @ #39 in 1988 ; Tony Francis (142 games) @ #95 in 1988 ; Paul Williams (189 games) @ #70 in 1989 ; Scott Burns (265 games) @ #90 in 1992 ; Tarkyn Lockyer (227 games) @ #39 in 1997 ; Leon Davis (225 games) @ #34 in 1999 ; Ben Johnson (235 games) @ #62 in 1999 ; Ryan Lonie (123 games) @ #34 in 2000 ; Dane Swan (258 games) @ #58 in 2001 ; Tyson Goldsack (165 games) @ #63 in 2006.
6 of those played a Premiership with the CFC and 9 played in a GF with the CFC.

[Kingsofclutch]

List of players set to be upgraded from rookie lists to senior lists next month per @CalTwomey

• Collingwood: 1 of Ash Johnson, Aiden Begg and Oleg Markov

[LaurieHolden]

^ Earlier this year Markov had signed a 1-year extension + a trigger, was that only a rookie extension?

Source :
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1042622/out ... rand-final