The impact of two new players!!!
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The impact of two new players!!!
The impact of two new, readily available players to the starting team can never be under-estimated. Remember:
* Cloke and Raines in 1983
* BT and Tony Burgess in 1985 (ok, maybe not Tony but more-so Russell Dickson)
* McGuane, Brown and Crosisca in 1988
* Francis and S Russell in 1990
* Clement and Wakelin in 2001
* Thomas and Pendles in 2006
* Jolly and Ball in 2010
* Mitchell and Hill in 2023?
Bona-fide starting 18 players who can make material impact is a huge thing for any club. For 2024, my thoughts are:
"Schultz (obviously) and Reef McInnes" can be the two players that make this similar imprint on our teams performances. Naturally the departures of Adams are Ginnivan open up two automatic spots and you'd think Frampton is best 25.
Which two players on our list do you think can have the most impact in season in 2024???
* Cloke and Raines in 1983
* BT and Tony Burgess in 1985 (ok, maybe not Tony but more-so Russell Dickson)
* McGuane, Brown and Crosisca in 1988
* Francis and S Russell in 1990
* Clement and Wakelin in 2001
* Thomas and Pendles in 2006
* Jolly and Ball in 2010
* Mitchell and Hill in 2023?
Bona-fide starting 18 players who can make material impact is a huge thing for any club. For 2024, my thoughts are:
"Schultz (obviously) and Reef McInnes" can be the two players that make this similar imprint on our teams performances. Naturally the departures of Adams are Ginnivan open up two automatic spots and you'd think Frampton is best 25.
Which two players on our list do you think can have the most impact in season in 2024???
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I think it's fair to assume Schultz will be the only "new" player to have a major impact this year, unless someone like Allan or Steene comes in and surpasses expectations. Otherwise, if we're referring to players coming in from the periphery, I can see Macrae being the source of improvement this time around.
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Sarge obviously is a lock and while reef isn't a new player I can see him having a breakout season as a fast leading 194cm FF who can also apply defensive pressure.
We can use a resting ruck for the get out dump kick to spoil opposition intercept defenders but a fast moving tall like Reef suits our gamestyle.
We can use a resting ruck for the get out dump kick to spoil opposition intercept defenders but a fast moving tall like Reef suits our gamestyle.
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Re: The Impact of two new players!!!
Okay, are we talking over-summer recruits/trades from other teams here, with match hardened bodies, 1st year draft players, or blokes who have merely stepped up from their debut season?inxs88 wrote:The impact of two new, readily available players to the starting team can never be under-estimated. Remember:
Without trying to nitpick and muddy the waters here, let's also praise...
1981: Mark Williams and Mick Taylor from SANFL; wonderful servants to our club.
And Mike Richardson from WAFL, later Greg Philips from SANFL, Morwood from swans, and of course the late-great Philip Walsh, prior to his poaching.inxs88 wrote:* Cloke and Raines in 1983
Burgo was a beautiful kick, Dicko was shifty around goal. Millane started to turn heads in his 2nd year.inxs88 wrote:* BT and Tony Burgess in 1985 (ok, maybe not Tony but more-so Russell Dickson)
1987: Christian and Starcevich from WAFL [be thankful both weren't secured by WCE in debut season, or no 1990 flag...]
All above debuted in 1987; Wright was the boom recruit, Barwick and Hawke gave us run and goals in 1988.inxs88 wrote:* McGuane, Brown and Crosisca in 1988
1989: Craig Kelly [not counting the 1988 overseas exhibition games], and the enigmatic shooting-star Heath Shephard
Both instrumental in that premiership; we finish 4th/5th without them.inxs88 wrote:* Francis and S Russell in 1990
Then the great 90s drafting/trading **** began in earnest; culminating in the overlooking of Pavlich in 1999, before the ship was steadied the years following.
Holland, Didak, Molloy, Lonie etc; the broom got put through the list in 2000.inxs88 wrote:* Clement and Wakelin in 2001
Again be thankful Whorethorn missed Pendles and took Ellis instead; otherwise the 1990 team are still our most recent flag.inxs88 wrote:* Thomas and Pendles in 2006
I consider his non-selection by Whoreks and Blooz the luckiest break WE EVER got at the draft, period. Some durable players went from 6 onwards in 2005 draft, but none at his level:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_AFL_draft
The players we had to poach in order to step up; we'd missed out on too many "free agents" in seasons prior, before that term was labelled.inxs88 wrote:* Jolly and Ball in 2010
One could also plead a case for McStay prior to both the injuries he sustained during the season, and Frampo, whilst far from perfect, made several solid contributions during the season, including carrying the ruck in absence of Darcy C and Mason.inxs88 wrote:* Mitchell and Hill in 2023?
Preparation must meet opportunity, in order to succeed.inxs88 wrote:Bona-fide starting 18 players who can make material impact is a huge thing for any club.
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Re: The Impact of two new players!!!
Perryman & .......?
Perryman, 2025 Schultz and a 'bona fide' mid like Kennedy certainly presents a real opportity for a change-up in game day strategy and positional change options for incumbents in 2025.
+ the refresh in the coaching department with Boyd coming back certainly won't do us any harm.
Perryman, 2025 Schultz and a 'bona fide' mid like Kennedy certainly presents a real opportity for a change-up in game day strategy and positional change options for incumbents in 2025.
+ the refresh in the coaching department with Boyd coming back certainly won't do us any harm.
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Re: The impact of two new players!!!
Perryman and Houston will make an enormous difference to our team. Lock us in for a top 4 finish.
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Re: The impact of two new players!!!
Agree in principle but before Perryman was lured by the pies had anyone really even noticed him? Be honest. All of a sudden he is the second coming of Jimmy Clement.
We have to win a flag in 25 or 26 for this to be successful. And I think we can, but it’s very high stakes now. Veteran injuries will be an absolute disaster as we will have less depth than the Costa Concordia.
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Re: The impact of two new players!!!
T I've seen a bit of him and there is no flashiness or flair whatsoever but he does the little things well and he plays to make his team mates better. Very versatile and focused on his assignment for the match.Big T wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:27 amAgree in principle but before Perryman was lured by the pies had anyone really even noticed him? Be honest. All of a sudden he is the second coming of Jimmy Clement.
We have to win a flag in 25 or 26 for this to be successful. And I think we can, but it’s very high stakes now. Veteran injuries will be an absolute disaster as we will have less depth than the Costa Concordia.
Re: The impact of two new players!!!
A safer, more reliable and more versatile version of Markov. Also a better kick and mark.jonmac1954 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:40 amT I've seen a bit of him and there is no flashiness or flair whatsoever but he does the little things well and he plays to make his team mates better. Very versatile and focused on his assignment for the match.Big T wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:27 amAgree in principle but before Perryman was lured by the pies had anyone really even noticed him? Be honest. All of a sudden he is the second coming of Jimmy Clement.
We have to win a flag in 25 or 26 for this to be successful. And I think we can, but it’s very high stakes now. Veteran injuries will be an absolute disaster as we will have less depth than the Costa Concordia.