Collingwood send clear-cut message after double draft coup

[Pies2016]

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L H, you got in minutes before me. At some point “ we “ need to acknowledge talent spotters know a hell of a lot more than we ever will and yet in truth, after all the hours put into these guys, they will still it get wrong occasionally. Even then, you can still identify a true talent but can never anticipate what challenges they may face under the spotlight of being a high profile AFL draftee. Clubs spend hundreds of hours on background checks, social and character profiles, as well as pouring over footage and watching these kids live.
I get that it’s all a bit of fun putting names forward and waxing lyrical on various missed opportunities but we need to remind ourselves checking out any kid from a two minute highlight reel is no guide to a players potential ( they are called “ highlight “ reels for a reason ) These days players are judged equally by what they do when they aren’t in the contest versus when they are.
With our first pick at 25, I would be happy with anyone who turns out to be a best 23 player for the next several years and that’s whether he’s 180cm or 200cm.

[lazzadesilva]

With our first pick at 25, I would be happy with anyone who turns out to be a best 23 player for the next several years and that’s whether he’s 180cm or 200cm.

In the business of risk vs. reward, it will never be a perfect science but a system of giving a perceived talented player the chance to shine and demonstrate his ability to play at the highest level. As with any situation, we need to have realistic expectations of the player succeeding at AFL level.

[Monco Matt]

I think the message of "if you can't run you can't play" is meant mostly for those that don't bring something unique to the team in the beginning of being recruited to the club. If you are on the outskirts of the best 23 then you need to at least have speed and/or endurance to have a chance to play seniors unless you bring a 1-wood like clearance ability, elusiveness & smarts, marking & intercepting, tap work, goal kicking, disposal skills etc. If you don't have a 1-wood then you have to have running capability as a minimum. Not every player in our team is a speed machine or endurance athlete but everyone has a 1-wood that gives team balance.

[LaurieHolden]

^ reflecting on that MM, perhaps why Adams found himself on the outer, when Mitchell / coaching panel edged him out of what he saw as an established role and couldn't evolve?

[inxs88]

Think such grandiose statements from Hine don't serve us great. If applied retrospectively, we wouldn't have had steele, Mitchell, Pendles or Jaicos in our GF team. Understand footy has evolved and love the idea of a fast team, but the one size fits all mantra doesn't always apply.

[Born to Pie]

Think such grandiose statements from Hine don't serve us great. If applied retrospectively, we wouldn't have had steele, Mitchell, Pendles or Jaicos in our GF team. Understand footy has evolved and love the idea of a fast team, but the one size fits all mantra doesn't always apply.

I think we need to understand that his comment wasn't "run fast", it was, "if they can't run" and I believe that's about being prepared to do the two way gut running. We've obviously brought in speed over the last 2 years but certainly those you have listed are two way gut runners along with the likes of Lipinski, WHE, Crisp and even Mihocek.

That's my take on the comment anyway.