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Brayden Maynard is fronting the AFL Tribunal, charged with rough conduct. Follow via
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Brayden Maynard has pleaded not guilty to rough conduct.
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Tribunal (has changed from first advised): Jeff Gleeson (Chair), Scott Stevens, Darren Gaspar
Legal reps: Andrew Woods (AFL), Ben Ihle (Collingwood)
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Angus Brayshaw went to hospital after the match for precautionary scans due to significant headaches, which were clear. His return to play time frame is still uncertain. Symptoms had mildly improved as of Friday.
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A professor giving written evidence is not available until 5pm to answer questions via a video call. Jeff Gleeson notes the evidence includes reference to Galileo and Isaac Newton.
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Brayden Maynard will now give evidence.
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Ihle (Collingwood): Do you remember the incident?
Maynard: I do. But it happened very, very quickly.
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Maynard: I jumped straight in the air. I was coming pretty quickly, I thought I'd be able to smother the ball.
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Ihle (Pies): Were you close enough to try and tackle him?
Maynard: No, I was not.
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Maynard is holding a mini rubber football in his left hand.
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Maynard: After I smothered the ball, I came and I looked down and I thought 'shit, he's there'. I sort of seized up. Next thing I know he was on the floor and I was just a bit rattled myself.
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Maynard says he was not expecting Brayshaw to move in the way he did after kicking the ball, which was towards Maynard.
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Woods (AFL) is asking Maynard questions. Maynard is getting testy.
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Woods (AFL): It was clear to you that you were going to collide hard with Brayshaw.
Maynard: No. I did not know what was going to happen after I went to make a football act.
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Woods (AFL): You turn your body to the left prior to impact
Maynard: Yes.
Woods (AFL): Do you accept you could've outstretched your hands and arms and cushioned impact?
Maynard: No.
Woods (AFL): You could've opened your arms and collected Brayshaw?
Maynard: No.
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Gleeson: This is Jeff Gleeson the Tribunal chair, can you see and hear me?
Maynard: Yes mate.
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Maynard says he felt the ball hitting his hand during his spoil attempt.
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Maynard: I think with all due respect, the same outcome would've happened (if he changed his approach while in the air). When I went to smother the ball, it was a flinch reaction. Like I said, he was in my way and a collision occurred.
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Maynard: I just sort of flinched and tensed up. I thought, 'Aww shit.'
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Ihle (Pies): Did you consider at the time Brayshaw kicked the football he was in a vulnerable position?
Maynard: No.
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Maynard's evidence has concluded. He takes a sip of water. His hair is immaculately gelled.
Woods (AFL): The AFL's position is that Maynard's conduct was unreasonable in the circumstances.
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Woods (AFL): This type of contact isn't common. Leaping forward in the air with force to an opponent running in the opposite direction holds a key risk of badly injuring their opponent. It's a dangerous action to undertake & it breaches the duty of care owed to the other player.
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Woods (AFL) says players should ask: Is the thing I'm about to do risking the safety of that other player? If the answer is yes, then you've got to be quick and think about a way to do it that's not going to unreasonably risk the safety of the other player.
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Woods (AFL): Unlike in the ancient game of AFL football, there are times in the modern game where you do have to pull your punches.
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Woods (AFL): A player in this situation who wants to smother, it might just simply be too unsafe to do so because of the forward motion and the forward trajectory.
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Woods (AFL): He could've made a more upright jump and not push himself forward in the way he did.
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The biomechanist has arrived four minutes early. He is officially better than any medical professional I have ever visited.
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Despite arriving early, the biomechanist has been put on hold. This would be deeply frustrating for the biomechanist, unless the hold music is good in the Tribunal-verse.
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Update: The mini rubber football is now in Brayden Maynard's right hand.
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Woods (AFL): If he doesn't turn, there probably would've been a reportable offence, but it would reduce the carelessness.
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Melbourne has just released a medical report: “There’s no set timeframe on when Angus will return this year, it’s based on how he progresses through the protocol and also on the advice from the experts around his concussion management.”
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The biomechanist, Michael Cole, is here. He is an expert in biomechanics and neuroscience. He is an expert in two more things than me.
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Biomechanist: Once airbone, Maynard had no opportunity to avoid the collision.
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The AFL notes the biomechanist says a young athlete might be 20-to-25 times faster than a non-athlete.
The biomechanist corrects him, saying they might be 20-to-25 per cent faster.
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Biomechanist: I do not believe Maynard's body position at the time of impact can be considered part of any conscious decision.
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Biomechanist: Based on the numbers and research, it's difficult to conclusively say Maynard would've been able to make any conscious decision to reposition his body.
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The biomechanist says there's a 200-250 millisecond average reaction time for general population in a controlled setting, but is confident that time would be "impossible to achieve in a competitive arena."
He says Maynard would've had no more than 400 milliseconds to respond.
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Biomechanist: Once he's airborne, he's essentially a projectile. He's like a frisbee with arms and legs.
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The biomechnaist has concluded evidence. He is told he is free to stay if he likes. He makes the correct decision and immediately logs off.
Maynard incident > Maynard rule > Brayshaw retirement
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True, but unless they have an expert that can refute the biochemist's evidence, than the expert evidence must stand...unless the AFL Tribunal doesn't follow the general law of the land...David wrote:Could be wrong, but pretty sure the biomechanist has been called in by Maynard's legal team?
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Reads like actor directions in a film script.tbaker wrote:ha ha - keping it entertaining: "Maynard's evidence has concluded. He takes a sip of water. His hair is immaculately gelled."
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
robevpau1 wrote:'Maynard says he felt the ball hitting his hand during his spoil attempt.' So he partially effected a smother which was the aim of the action.
You see the ball deviate in the vision. Regardless of the result tonight it will drag on, I suspect the AFL will appeal if he is cleared.
Human behavioural studies suggest people who use a lot of swear words tend to be more honest & trustworthy.
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Indeed, we can see the ball go back...and to the left. Back...and to the leftJohnno75 wrote:robevpau1 wrote:'Maynard says he felt the ball hitting his hand during his spoil attempt.' So he partially effected a smother which was the aim of the action.
You see the ball deviate in the vision. Regardless of the result tonight it will drag on, I suspect the AFL will appeal if he is cleared.
"You hate a mean man, a grasping man, a man who wants everything and gives nothing. That’s Collingwood. They are a law unto themselves"
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Maynard update: He is biting his nails.
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The AFL accepts a collision of some kind was inevitable once Maynard was airborne, but challenges that the way contact occured was not a conscious decision.
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Woods (AFL): Maynard does not simply flinch. It's a conscious turning of the body to absorb impact.
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The AFL says even if this isn't a bump, it's a careless offence.
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If its a week I think they should take it and move on.think positive wrote:Should be nothing but like barryhall, a week we can fightGerry Cooper wrote:They are emphasizing the "reckless" angle by the look of it. He'll end up with a week I reckon.
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bullshit, no way, carlton got their captain off for worse. just so he could win the brownlow.Gerry Cooper wrote:If its a week I think they should take it and move on.think positive wrote:Should be nothing but like barryhall, a week we can fightGerry Cooper wrote:They are emphasizing the "reckless" angle by the look of it. He'll end up with a week I reckon.
he did nothing wrong,
you have to fight that all the damn way
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!